In this episode, Andy sits down with Eli Ben-Sasson, co-founder and CEO of StarkWare, to discuss the evolving landscape of crypto and blockchain.
Eli shares his 12+ years of perspective in the industry—from launching Zcash in 2014 to building StarkWare and Starknet today—and explains why the future of crypto lies in a return to fundamentals.
We discuss:
Why crypto still lacks global product-market fit
The cycles of hype vs. long-term fundamentals (payments, stablecoins, credentials)
Why fully decentralized systems (Bitcoin, Starknet) are the true end state
Institutional adoption, stablecoins, and the role of corporate chains
The coming wave of Bitcoin staking on Starknet
Decentralizing the sequencer and scaling Ethereum with ZK-STARKs
The importance of privacy, UX, and self-custody for mainstream adoption
Eli also explains why he believes Starknet is best positioned to become the Bitcoin settlement layer, shares updates on Starknet’s decentralization milestones.



